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Re: [jed-users] Updating the buffers


Hello Martin,

What you are talking about is a collaboration editor.

https://opensource.com/business/15/7/five-open-source-alternatives-google-docs

https://www.linuxlinks.com/collaborativeediting/

http://collaboration.wikia.com/wiki/Collaborative_real-time_editor

My opinion here doesn't really matter. I use jed only when I need to edit from the command line these days. Much of my work is Qt based where I need to use QtCreator or OpenVMS based where I tend to use Eclipse on Linux and transfer back to VMS for compiling...or LSE on VMS itself. Heck, for most everything I've done lately I use at least 3, sometimes 4 editors which all look different. One is the actual editor. Another is for read-only viewing and opens files in read-only mode. Another is for snippets which are not yet officially dead, but cannot remain in current "live" source (usually notepadqq for this because it auto-saves unnamed tabs).

If my personal opinion has any weight, I don't think it would be a good thing to morph jed into a collaborative editor. To start with, the VMS version has to deal with file versioning on the platform. Every time you save you create a new version rather than updating the existing file. As long as you don't accidentally purge, you have the complete history of changes until you hit file version 32767.

Roland


On 02/23/2018 08:36 AM, Martin Klaiber wrote:
Hi Roland,

Roland Hughes <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Automatic buffer update would be really really really bad. While I wouldn't
be offended at some kind of pop-up querying "document has changed on disk,
would you like to reload?" with ok/ignore buttons, auto-loading would be
horrible.
I understand your concerns and you are generally right. I just would
like to have it as an option in /this/ case.

It would also be fine if jed would ask me if I want to reload the
buffer when it tells me that the files on disk have changed. But it
doesn't. It just asks me if I want to edit the (outdated) buffer,
and if I say "no", nothing else happens. If I say "yes" I don't get
the data of the changed file.

To my opinion there is an alternative missing: how can I get the
contents of the file changed on disk? I can edit the outdated buffer
but I can't update/reload it. At least not by the command which tells
me that the file has changed on disk. I have to reopen the file which
is not very comfortable.

Thanks,
Martin
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