Re: [jed-users] XJed looks

[Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

You sir, made my day. Especially with the last part.


I've been battling VT100 compatibility for ages and the lack of people
who actually understand the standard is quite scary. I truly worry that
soon, only us few will be those left who have actually read and
understood the standards set forth years ago. And to think -- It truly
is not that hard of a standard and it works quite well.


I think standards compliance is a dying breed and we're one of the
casualties of it.


On 07/06/2018 08:20 AM, Roland Hughes wrote:
>
> Knowing nothing but recognizing something I will offer up this fish.
> It might be a Red Herring and it might be The Big Kahuna.
>
> The VT100 mode of every free terminal on Linux isn't even close to
> VT100 compatible. You have to hack and override a vast number of
> definitions. Minor discussion here.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.vms/linux$20vt100$20emulation%7Csort:date/comp.os.vms/WTSEx6j7qTc/3GsFMSAMBgAJ
>
> Wee bit of rehash here:
>
> http://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/xterm-and-vt-emulation/
>
> Even more discussion here
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.vms/linux$20vt100$20emulation%7Csort:date/comp.os.vms/9DIFTtYLpn0/SOhgHPFXOAAJ
>
> My guess is, with a much older distro, your changes work fine, just
> like my xterm script worked fine for decades. Recently there has been
> yet another regression of VT100 support. My script stopped working if
> my login.com had
>
> $ SET TERM/INQ
>
> which means to inquire from the terminal what its settings should be
> and then tell the OS.
>
> Those backward question marks are a red flag. Seen them many times
> trying to use various terminals to communicate with VMS systems. I
> would suggest trying the VT102 stuff from the first discussion link.
> It may not be a final answer, but, it should make a big improvement.
>
> I will guess this VT100 regression happened the way most of them do.
> Someone bitched to the 12 year old "maintaining" the package that
> keystroke blah or terminal string yaha didn't let them use some
> feature of VIM they really wanted and both of them together knowing
> less-than-zero about either OpenVMS or a VT100, hacked it, took out
> whatever automated tests that failed, and checked it in.
>
>
> On 07/06/2018 12:46 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've installed XJed and Jed and applied the CBrief patch to create a
>> pretty good Brief clone under Linux. Whilst I'm happy with the result,
>> Jed works very well, XJed however has an issue with the display of
>> menus. I'm assuming that it is something I need to fix, but what do I
>> need to fix/check? As I don't see problems elsewhere, it would be great
>> if I could apply a XJed specific fix, rather than fiddling with a system
>> setting, but if I have to, I will.
>>
>> System details: 32GB RAM, 64-bit laptop running Debian 10 / Buster /
>> Testing / next-stable. It has a hybrid video card, but right now it is
>> running Intel, as I ran into a couple of NVidia nasties.
>>
>> Screenshots of XJed and Jed attached.
>>
>> Rgds Chris
>>
>
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