Re: [jed-users] Re: VT100 compatible terminal emulator?

[Roland Hughes <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well,

At this point the only thing any of us here could so is try your xterm 
config file, but you would have to post it in its entirety.

If it is not your xterm startup script, then it is something you tweaked 
in your u18 instance.

Honestly, go here:

https://eisner.decus.org/

follow the bouncing ball instructions at the bottom for creating an account.

Until a VMS system tells us for certain that you really are configured 
to run VT102, little else matters.


Ummm really stupid question.


How is your mouse connected?

What brand of mouse is it?

How many buttons?


Okay, that was 3 stupid questions, but . . .

1) Apple screwed the known universe when they dropped support for 
PostScript from CUPS __and__ dumped all of the device drivers.

2) Serial and Parallel kinda-sorta-half-assedly got rolled back into 
some other part of Linux, but it's been a struggle. And then there is this.

https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/10/15/apple_cups_develoment/

https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/5271

https://www.cups.org/blog/2018-06-06-demystifying-cups-development.html


2018 is around the time the shit storm happened. If I have time I will 
boot one of my Ubuntu 18.04 LTS VMs and see if things are working for me.

Oh, the reason the connection is important has to do with both serial 
and PS/2 connected mice. The serial connected mice got whammied by Apple.

PS/2 got whammied via other things.

https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/man4/psm.4freebsd.html

The above link is important if you have multiple pointing devices (or 
your computer believes it has). A laptop that has both a touchpad and a 
mouse falls into this category.

There have been other on-again/off-again PS/2 mouse related issues.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/813546

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1295972/ps2-mouse-stopped-working-after-update

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178803



At any rate, step one is you testing your xterm against Eisner and 
seeing what SHOW TERM tells everyone.

If it ain't VT102, that's your problem.


While many of us "could" try your xterm startup script next, I suspect 
you have a deeper issue.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/101226/where-does-ubuntu-store-its-keyboard-shortcut-configuration#101248

Either you personally, or something you installed, managed to create a 
global hotkey or hotkeys for <Ctrl>MouseButton1, etc. You need to find 
what that is and nuke it.

You mentioned XFCE so here

https://askubuntu.com/questions/821940/configure-mouse-buttons-in-xfce4


The bottom line is **stop tweaking things**

Learn to accept defaults, they are there for a reason.


You can install all of the terminals you want, but if 
<Ctrl>MouseButton1-3 are hooked at the global level, your application 
will never see them. The fact that nothing is launching (that you've 
told us about) most likely means you installed something to try, then 
uninstalled it, and some noob wrote the package. They did not properly 
cleanup in the Debian postrm proc.


On 7/27/21 8:56 AM, Ulli Horlacher wrote:
> On Tue 2021-07-27 (06:53), Roland Hughes wrote:
>
> > Visit DECUS and create an account on Eisner so you have an actual
> > OpenVMS system to connect with.
> DECUS is still alive?! Interesting news! I have to check it later :-)
>
>
> > If VMS doesn't show you as a VT102 that is your problem. Despite what
> > you want to believe, one of your tweaks has xterm in Tektronix or some
> > other non-VT102 mode.
> In any case, there should still be the xterm main menu on Ctrl-Mousebutton1
>
>
> > Install Oracle Virtualbox on some higher end platform
> >
> > Create a shiny new Ubuntu 18.04 LTS VM and apply all updates
> >
> > DO NOT TRANSFER ANY OF YOUR CONFIGURATIONS OR PRECIOUS FILES!
> >
> > Install xterm.
> >
> > create ~/bin
> >
> > create a DEC-U-SERV executable file using the xterm script I pasted here
> > earlier, but your own username.
> >
> > from the command line type DEC-U-SERV and log in.
> >
> > I bet you have all of the menus.
> It is just simpler:
>
> When I create a test user on my Xubuntu 18, this user has a xterm with
> normal popup menus. Same binary of course.
>
> I KNOW that there is a bug in my user configuration but where and what? I
> cannot delete all of my config files, there are hundreds of hours of work
> in them!
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